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Was the IPCC wrong to threaten 1.3 billion people who live in the Himalayan basin to advance their agenda?

Question by Conservative Agenda: Was the IPCC wrong to threaten 1.3 billion people who live in the Himalayan basin to advance their agenda?
Some of the world’s major rivers, the Indus, the Ganges, the Brahmaputra, and the Yangtze, rise in the Himalayas, and their combined drainage basin is home to some 1.3 billion people, including the people of Bangladesh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245636/Glacier-scientists-says-knew-data-verified.html#ixzz0dUx6pwXe
Where do I start, Oikos?

“Articles in the gray literature are not always wrong.”

Maybe SOMEBODY should check it out.

‘ It seems strange that you cavil at gray literature while citing a newspaper editorial as your source.”

The IPCC report is “gray literature”??

At least the newspaper article vetted its sources.


2 hours ago

Best answer:

Answer by oikos
Articles in the gray literature are not always wrong. Most of it consist of government publications. As long as there is no pressure put on the agency from the White House (“W”e “W”on’t mention names.), the publications are usually as accurate at those in the peer-reviewed literature. It seems strange that you cavil at gray literature while citing a newspaper editorial as your source.

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Is the media getting the Himalayan glacier story wrong?

Question by Dana1981: Is the media getting the Himalayan glacier story wrong?
The “big story” today is that the IPCC made an error in saying that Himalayan glaciers could be gone by 2035. However, a recent expedition found that this prediction might not be so far off after all.

“researchers discovered that levels of black carbon in the ice core of the Tibetan plateau had soared since the 1990s because of smokestack industries and coal fires in millions of homes.

The plateau’s 36,000 glaciers, which once extended for 18,000 square miles, could vanish before mid-century if present rates of warming persist. More than 80% of them are in retreat. The overall area has shrunk by 4.5% in the past 20 years.”

“The snow is thawing and the snowline has risen from 4,600 metres to 5,300 metres. The Jianggendiru glacier, which is the main water supply of the Yangtze, has been degenerating fast since 1970, and when the glaciers shrink there will be a water crisis in the Yellow and Yangtze rivers.”

“Qin Dahe, an eminent scientist and explorer, has been permitted to disclose alarming official assessments of the causes to Xinhua, the state news agency. “Owing to global warming, glaciers on the QinghaiTibet plateau are retreating extensively at a speed faster than in any other part of the world,” he said.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6907919.ece

So ironically, while the IPCC made an error here, it turns out their erroneous figure was actually pretty close to reality. Why isn’t that bit of information making the news stories?

Best answer:

Answer by Dr Feelgood
Read this with an open mind. Glaciers only bring in 3 to 4% of the drinking water. It’s the monsoons and snow melt each year that is the major source of the drinking water. Many glaciers there are actually growing or are stable according to these scientists in India. And no the IPCC is still way off base.

http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/?p=20424

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